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1960 gmc cabover

klintan77 has uploaded 1467 photos to Flickr. According to the brochure, it was available in 108″ and 130″ wheelbase length. But of course after most of them did poorly in the market place the GM reverted to being conservative. Up north, Scania and Volvo. Some have claimed that the crackerbox was available with the 475 hp 12V-71 Detroit Diesel, but not from the factory for highway use. [1] Featuring a (much) larger radiator grille, improvements to exterior and interior trim, the SS package was meant to market the Astro/Titan towards owner-operators. The two different designs are more obvious here. Interesting stuff for sure. Meanwhile, GMC, which along with International had for decades been the two top selling medium/heavy-duty truck brands, only had an older style non-tilt COE, dubbed the “cannonball” for obvious reasons. All these wonderful shots came from Dick Copello’s fabulous collection of truck photos, many he shot himself over the decades. For a typical dealership, this meant dedicating profitable space that would have otherwise gone to selling passenger cars. The Bekins with pup is the oldschool A train over here not seen anymore absolute bastards to back and not hugely stable going forward either, the back trailer tends to wander. Why so low? Independent front suspension, air-suspension all-round, an ultra-light forward-set alloy cab only 48″ long, power steering, a complex fabricated frame that was 50% lighter, and the lightest diesel engine: This was the recipe for the most technologically advanced semi truck tractor in the world in 1959. The first thing you should do is contact the seller directly. Probably the most common articulated types in the UK up to late ’50s were the ‘mechanical horses’ (most commonly the Scammell 3 -wheelers) which majored on their abilty to turn in the tight spaces designed around horse drawn cart traffic.

The General was a decent truck but it was to expensive for the every day truck. True that they were only offered in single drive cabover configurations, but at the time that was by far the most common tractor configuration in much of the country. 1960 GMC Cabover Tilt Trucks Vintage Look Metal Sign,   France   |   English (US)   |   € (EUR), 1971 Quaalude 300 Vintage Look Metal Sign, 1968 Plymouth Barracuda 2 Vintage Look Metal Sign, Boundary Waters Canoe Area Vintage Look Metal Sign, Copyright and Intellectual Property Policy, Review how we define handmade, vintage and supplies, See a list of prohibited items and materials, remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy, remember your login, general, and regional preferences, personalize content, search, recommendations, and offers, to ensure that sellers understand their audience and can provide relevant ads. If you’ve already done that, your item hasn’t arrived, or it’s not as described, you can report that to Etsy by opening a case. Although full air suspension was embraced enthusiastically by bus operators due to the big improvement in ride quality, truck operators were notorious penny-pinchers, and the additional cost was undoubtedly not justifiable. The set-back front axle version (like the DLR) was not offered on this new series. In fact, good luck finding a restored DLR8000 on the web; extremely rare, yet they were built for several years at volume. We loved our first child so much that we neglected the other kids, to our detriment. Once GM became fat and happy in the mid 1950’s, it failed to appreciate that it was actually highly vulnerable, on all fronts. I sold GMC light, medium and heavy-duty trucks and also have sold Internationals, White, White-GMC (anybody remember those?

I would say the DLR/DFR was a failure, but I think it’s a stretch to say they lead to GM’s abandonment of the heavy truck market. Your email address will not be published. GMC Truck & Bus was a closely know division where we got much done through direct contact with the factory. Totally new for the 1960 was a series of Tilt Cab trucks, included about 20 models, which were true Cab-Over-Engine models. My job was to start it every day to let it build up enough air for the cab air bags to come up off the stops. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I believe they developed the 60 Series engine so they could sell the engine business. Instead of listening to the market, they now appear to answer to the management team, with their profitability and margin the deciding factor over all. With the high spring rates required, I doubt the there would be much independent movement. This fun and decorative handmade metal sign will look great in your home, office or garage! DFR 8100 was a DFR 8000 with an 8V-71. Of course GM went on to kill its medium duty and HD light duty trucks too. I don’t think articulated trucks were very common in the UK then; seems many/most were rigids with trailers. Great! Free US …

It’s management that screwed up. But the market spoke, and Ford bailed in 1997, selling out to Freightliner. This is really great work! Thanks to the exchange rates, it was a rather cheap truck too in the seventies (for so much quality and durability). 52. Intended to vault the competition through sheer technical overkill, they were the result of the oft-deadly hubris that permeated GM. Along with the Dragfoiler roof spoiler, the option package included body extension panels between the cab and trailer, an air dam below an extended bumper and an optimized radiator grille. Proudly Hung in my Man Cave . Fascinating. The most successful big US cabover here: the Mack F-series. It seems more than a bit odd that if there’s a genuine restored DFR8000 or DFR8100 out there that it/they never showed up in the very many Google searches I made. The frame design is something I find interesting in these trucks. I also find it interesting that the X-brace was only used the the DLR trucks and not the DFR trucks.

The GMC “crackerbox” COE did survive longer, until 1969, but only because a very conventional dumbed-down version was rushed into production to replace the DLR8000, not unlike the 1962 Chevy II and 1964 Tempest, Skylark and Cutlass. DFR 8000 had a set-forward front axle, 6-71 engine (in-line 6). [1] In an option that became standard a year later, in 1979, GMC and Chevrolet offered the SS (Special Series) package. The French drove French, the Italians drove Italian, etc. GM press releases state that the DLR 8000 went into production in 1959, and that supposedly the DFR 8000 was added later. Maybe they need to keep management away from design and engineering, and let marketing only deal with dealers. I’ve looked at large numbers of truck show images and none of these two. Yes! Ten years on it was very different with the fledgling motorway network growing rapidly and the hamorrhaging of traditionally rail traffic to articulated HGVs. This seller usually responds within a few hours. It’s hard to see where being on the development of the Cobalt would have carried more prestige than being on the Silverado development team. A short run for a short truck.

Driver comfort was not a consideration then so my boss bought it for a yard tractor which i used all day to spot trailers. Trans-European transport, on a large scale, had yet to start. That the truck division was a stepping stone to more prestigious positions is likely the biggest factor in the unsuccessfulness of these trucks. That was the case for essentially all cars and trucks back then. of torque @1200rpm. Agreed also about that frame: it was clearly designed for the IFS.

It also shows a DFR 8000 (right) that has its cab directly over the front axle, and which sat a bit higher too. Here’s a good look at the independent front suspension. And as you note, it was probably not real “truck guys” who were making the decisions. Jim Carter's Old Chevy Trucks - Your biggest source for Chevy and GMC Truck Parts 1934 to 1972. But this was all changing quickly in the ’60s, with the growth of the interstate system. Turns out what American truckers really wanted was cheap, heavy, average, but good looking, just like American car buyers. Agreed. It could haul over a ton of extra payload capacity thanks to its light weight, it was highly efficient and was the most comfortable for its driver. This is really a double edged deadly sin, it missed the mark by trying to innovate, and ultimately the lesson to be learned was “don’t innovate!”, I don’t think I have ever seen one of these trucks before, even the longer lived crackerbox successors. Curbside Review: 2020 Subaru Outback Onyx Edition XT – The Boost Is Back, Baby! Great article, I worked for the GMC Truck and Coach Division from 1978 to 1986. GMC crackerboxes were seen hauling moving vans well into the ’80s and even later. Your email address will not be published. Aircraft engines, even with the highest octane fuels and dual ignition, still had very low compression ratios. I just got Dave Dudley’s “Six Days on the Road” in my head…just passed a Jimmy and a White! The specs on that 637 V8 caught my eye—7.5:1 compression? 1941 GMC COE Cabover Truck. Quite right! There must be some common design element that appeals to my subconscious that I cannot identify…..or a mutated gene that I have. And as we’ll see later, by 1960 a very conventional “crackerbox” with its cab over the axle like the DFR 8000 was added, which quickly became the only version offered. Did have air IFS. Sorry, this item doesn’t ship to France. The bumper-to-back of cab size was 72 inches.

Back then, the market for heavy trucks was a regional / local affair. Learn more. That was excellent. Why did the once dominant GMC Truck division fade away after 1959? I’ve been a-passing everything in sight! Update: I see we both said pretty much the same thing.

Nonetheless, all the ‘Big 3’ eventually figured out that these types of heavy trucks were not something that could be effectively manufactured on high volume assembly lines (far too many options and hand-work) and didn’t generate anywhere near the ROI that light and medium duty trucks did.

In the late 1960s, as American truck manufacturers introduced updated designs for cabover trucks, design work began on an all-new Class 8 cabover. And if you had a bad airbag, it looked like the one in the photo. GMC’s market share was never as high after 1960 as it had been. Not inconsequential for hooking trailers all day long. Presumably the technology just wasn’t there yet to make HD truck IFS anywhere nearly as reliable as the traditional solid front axle, never mind the cost. We suggest contacting the seller directly to respectfully share your concerns. From some accounts, the DLR8000 sold poorly from  day one, due to these reasons as well as its higher cost. As you mention the laws did drive demand to fit the most volume or payload in a given space or gvw and the engineers did their job to maximize those attributes. Distinguished by its boxy appearance, it became nicknamed the "Crackerbox". I would need some proof of that before I change my conclusion. Heavy trucks were doing OK but GMC was constricted by plant capacity and old product. And here’s a smattering of those GM execs in 1959, basking in the reflected glory of their latest creation, which was destined to take the semi truck market by storm. In fact, it was something a bit ahead of the curve, in predicting a turn away from such brutalist and utilitarian boxes. A five speed Spicer “synchromesh overdrive” transmission teamed with a two-speed Eaton rear axle. When International put robotic painting in their Springfield plant there was over 200 shades of red available.

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